Which brand do u suggest me to buy for tires 175/65R14?

I was wondering how good are Pirelli P3000 (P175/65R-14 81T B) they are going for quite a good price according to brand and compared with other available options @ discount tire [$62 each - $370 total price (including labor n tax) for 4 tires]





any better deals or ideas!? I'm open to anything that is not blacklisted here (I'm not looking for Yokohamas, Bridgestone/firestone, Michelin, cheapo tire brands that u hear their name for the 1st time or cheapos like continentals or Toyos)





Corolla 99 CE and i do alot of high speed/sharp turns and/or wet driving (heavy rainstorms are frequent where i live and i had older bridgestones that would not even have anything called traction from complete stop to move under wet situations)





Price range per tire not more than $60 range - total not exceeding 350 range (i know Pirellis are an exception in my plan)





thnx in advanc|||Some Corolla's are fitted with P185/65R15 85S tires. If yours is fitted OE with P175/65R14 81S then stick with that. Your car is geared and the speedometer and odometer calibrated to the P175/65R14 81S size.





Pirelli P3000's are decent enough, though it is no performance tire. I am not sure why you would not want to consider ANY of the directly competitive brands such as Michelin, Bridgestone or Yokohama who make some of the best tires in the world. That only leaves you with the also-rans.





Also, I've heard Toyo's called a number of things, but "cheap" ain't one of them.





Really the only tire that seems to fit all of your requirements - cheap, aggressive driving style, wet performance - is the Sumitomo HTR H4. But then, you didn't want a cheap off-brand tire but aren't willing to consider any of the big name-brands either.





But if your really into aggressive cornering you could opt for a P195/60R14 85H or 195/60R14 86H tire instead. That opens up all kinds of options. The Firestone Firehawk GT for example is a great corner-carver that still offers excellent wet weather performance - but wait, you won't consider Firestone even though this is an outstanding tire.





You could do the Yokohama AVID H4s... wait, that one is no good either. Yokohama was a "blacklist" brand.





The Kuhmo Solus KH16 gets very favorable reviews and slots in way under your budget... oops, cheap brand.





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Every brand, and I do mean EVERY BRAND has its winners and its losers. To totally discount an entire brand because of one bad experience with one particular tire (probably years ago) is just plain silly. It keeps you from considering some of the best tires on the market. The Bridgestone Potenza RE92 is one of my least favorite tires every for example but the Potenza RE960 AS Pole Position is probably better than any competing tire out there by a sizable margin. Would you deny yourself the best tire made because you had a bad experience with some OE junk, just because of the name on the sidewall? The Yoko's you had such a bad time with were I bet Aegis LS4's - phenominal traction but they rarely make their treadwear warranty (prone to heal-and-toe wear). Consumer Reports loved them though. The AVID TRZ is on the other hand a phenominally long lasting tire that delivers great traction in all conditions and a ride better than most OE tires at a very reasonable price point. Buy you won't consider it because of a bad experience with some old outdated Yokohama model.





3 years ago I don't think there was a single Goodyear tire I could recommend to my customers. But since then they got serious about making tires again and came out with several models that are absolutely first class that I would not hesitate to recommend. Just because their previous generation sucked has no bearing on their current catalog.





Tires, like people should be looked at on their individual merits, not labels.





I stand by my prior recommendatins BTW.





ASE Certified Automotive Service Advisor and self-proclaimed tire expert (I've driven them all, HARD) working in the tire industry for 5 years|||175 is the with of the tire in millimeters


65 is the sidewall height expressed as a percentage of the width


R means it is a radial tire


14 means the tire mounts on a 14 inch diameter rim.





If you go to a 185 tire, you have to go to a lower profile (maybe a 60) if you want to keep the 14 inch rims, however a 175/65 is 107 mm tall, while a 185/60 is 111 mm tall, you will have a speedometer error.|||You can use Michelin's because the have a "give" to them BUT I don't care what tire you use, sharp turns in wet weather in a very light car will lead to disaster.


The 175 is the width in mm, the 65 is the aspect ratio, the height off the rim compared to the width and 14 is the rim diameter in inches.


If using a different tire, there might be a problem with turning and with your speedometer.|||the difference between 175 and 185 is tread, 185 has more tread then 175, with 185's you should get a better grip of the road.. well i would suggest at least gettin some 195's or 205's instead of 175, becuz like u said u do a lot of fast turns and stuff... u need way more grip on the road with 175's u wont get nothing





i checked i think the most biggest when it comes to tread u can go is 195, 205's would come in 15 inch.. chck link below|||We are Michelin fans--but i heard Pirelli's are good too!